Conversations with Cheese and the Tugboat - Episode 57

In this episode, Cheese was unavailable but the Estimator drops by and chats with the Tugboat about the possibilities of magic. They leave out much due to alcohol consumption but have a good time doing it. They don't do a good job of it but they try to point out that this podcast is in no way sponsored by Beau's All Natural Brewing. We're just big fans of theirs and their products.